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Andy G's avatar

Interesting story.

But imo it doesn’t pass the smell test. At least as *major* explanatory factor.

Because TODAY the people who are on average more anti-abundance are the more highly educated, on average less anti-immigrant left.

Where - populist and nationalist and more positive on tariffs and international trade restrictions notwithstanding - the on average more anti-immigrant right is generally much more favorably inclined towards economic progress. In both its pre- and post-Trump versions.

Of course, my argument is that the lower middle class writ large isn’t as racist and anti-immigrant as elites (left, center and right) portray them, so much as they are deeply anti-*illegal immigration*.

There is, of course, a notable minority who are indeed racist and anti-immigrant, period, but that tail is not wagging the dog on the right (again, despite leftist media claims to the contrary).

The much simpler, more logical answer is that the anti-progress movement has come from leftist socialism/Marxism/environmentalism (the last where so many of the leftist socialists and Marxists went in the 70s and 80s and 90s as it was clear that neoliberalism / capitalism had won on the pure economic front), which has more and more taken over the culture, via its friends in academia, the media and Hollywood (and perversely more recently, in Big Tech).

Open socialism has only shown up in the mainstream U.S. left since 2016, but the environmental movement you cite as a key source was where leftist energy was then, but is no longer exclusively the source of anti-abundance energy on the left.

IMO unlike the story that elites prefer to tell, populist nationalism and even anti-immigrant sentiment are at most an adjunct to the anti-abundance, anti-progress situation we have in the U.S.

The major truth is that the U.S. left and its leadership have abandoned abundance and economic progress. Narratives that don’t address that truth head-on are unlikely to succeed.

And seem to me more like the case of the person who lost his keys in the unlit dung field preferring to look for them in the unlit parking lot, because it is “less icky” to be looking over there, while the idea of looking in their own dung field is unseemly.

B.P. Majors's avatar

Isn't there a difference between decades when immigrants are mainly legal or illegal? And even more salient: isn't there a difference between decades when most immigrants are net taxpayers instead of net tax consumers?

So your graph is based on measurements that count apples and oranges together.

Also, many people think the 70s and 80s were less blighted decades than the 90s or 2000s. So looking at your graph, they would see a golden age in the low immigration decades.

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