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Andy G's avatar

Interesting story.

But imo it doesn’t pass the smell test. At least as *major* explanatory factor.

Because the people who are on average more anti-abundance are the more highly educated, on average less anti-immigrant left.

Where - populist and nationalist and more positive on tariffs and international trade restrictions notwithstanding - the on average more anti-immigrant right is generally much more favorably inclined towards economic progress. In both its pre- and post-Trump versions.

Of course, my argument is that the lower middle class writ large isn’t as racist and anti- immigrant as elites (left, center and right) portray them so much as they are deeply anti-illegal immigration. There is of course a notable minority who are indeed racist and anti-immigrant, period, but that tail is not wagging the dog on the right (again, despite leftist media claims to the contrary).

The much simpler, more logical answer is that the anti-progress movement has come from leftist socialism/Marxism/environmentalism (the last where so many of the leftist socialists and Marxists went in the 70s and 80s and 90s as it was clear that neoliberalism / capitalism had won on the pure economic front), and more and more taken over the culture from its friends in academia, the media and Hollywood.

Open socialism has only shown up in the mainstream U.S. left since 2016, but the environmental movement you cite as a key source was where leftist energy was then, but is no longer exclusively the source of anti-abundance energy on the left.

IMO unlike the story that elites prefer to tell, populist nationalism and even anti-immigrant sentiment are at most an adjunct to the anti-abundance, anti-progress situation we have in the U.S.

The major truth is that the U.S. left and its leadership have abandoned abundance and economic progress. Narratives that don’t address that truth head-on are unlikely to succeed. And seem to me more like the case of the person who lost his keys in the unlit dung field preferring to look for them in the unlit parking lot, because it seems “less icky” over there.

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Kaleberg's avatar

I don't think immigration has a lot to do with it. It's more about whether economic growth and innovation have been making people's lives better or worse on the balance. The industrial revolution increased the supply of goods, but most people led more miserable lives until political violence and protest forced the ruling class to share some of the goodies. 20th century industrialization produced even more, but its centralization, political power, militarization, pollution and the like produced new problems that were addressed somewhat in the 1960s and 1970s. Now we have the internet and AI revolutions that offer so much but produce wretched, demanding jobs and crappy products with no user recourse.

Productivity may have increased, but very little of it led to improved living conditions. GDP per capita may have increased by a factor of three since the 1980s, but the value of an hour of labor in those terms dropped to one third. You have to be dumb, blind and stupid to think that the AI being rammed down one's throat at work is going to get one an iota of a better life.

It was one thing when Prometheus gave man fire, but it was another when he started setting the world afire.

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